[情報] 關於 Windows 10X

看板WindowsPhone作者 (徵鋼鍊 20 21)時間5年前 (2019/10/04 10:52), 編輯推噓9(909)
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https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-announces-windows-10x- modern-os-foldable-pcs-coming-next-year Crucially, Microsoft says that Windows 10X can run all your usual programs, including Win32 programs. This is a big deal, as it means Windows 10X won't be gimped from the start via a lack of apps. Users will be able to download and use Win32 programs from the Microsoft Store, or from third-party storefronts like Adobe where applicable. 在 Windows Central 的報導上,微軟說 Windows 10X 可以跑 Win32 應用 程式,所以 Windows 10X 不會為了缺少 apps 所苦。 使用者可以透過 Microsoft Store 下載使用 Win32 應用程式,或者像是 Adobe 一樣的第三方來下載使用。 Win32 support on Windows 10X is somewhat different from how Win32 programs operate on regular Windows 10 however. Microsoft says that since Windows 10X is a modern OS, many of the legacy components required for Win32 apps to run have been decoupled from the core of the OS. But, thanks to Windows Core OS being a modular OS, users that need to run Win32 programs can do so as the OS will spin up the components required to run Win32 programs when required. When the user isn't running a Win32 program, those components are put back to sleep so that they don't affect OS performance. 不過 Windows 10X 的 Win32 跟一般的 Windows 不同,因為 10X 是現代OS 很多 Win32 需要的傳統組件已經與OS核心分離了。 但得益於 WCOS 是模組化OS,使用者要使用 Win32 程式的時候,組件將會被 調用,不用的時候組件會進入休眠,避免影響系統效能。 End users shouldn't notice anything different in running their Win32 programs on Windows 10X, but it is a significant change to the OS. It also makes Win32 applications more secure by sandboxing and containerizing them so that they can't reach out and affect or damage other parts of the system. It's a huge step forward in security for Windows as a whole, and it's coming to Windows 10X first. 終端使用者不會注意到差異,但對於OS來說是非常大的改變,甚至讓 Win32 應用程式更加安全,因為沙盒化、容器化,所以不會影響到系統其他部分。 這對 Windows 整體上來說是安全的一大進步,這項功能將先在 10X 提供。 Windows 10X is built on top of Windows Core OS, which Microsoft insists is not a new OS and sits under the Windows 10 umbrella. What's unique about Windows Core OS is that it's a modular platform that can adapt and change on the fly. Because of this, Windows 10X is based on the same universal OS that HoloLens 2, Surface Hub 2X, and even the Xbox is based on, with little changes to the core to make the OS run across these devices. The significant differences across these different editions of Windows Core OS come in the form of varying shell UX. 不過雖然 10X 是基於 WCOS,但微軟說這不是新的OS,並且 10X 是屬於 Win10 之中的,WCOS 特殊點就是他是模組化系統,可以視需要調整。 在各裝置上的不同點就是在操作介面上了。 像是 HoloLens 2 跟 Surface Hub 2X 就不一樣 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 211.23.167.48 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/WindowsPhone/M.1570157525.A.8EC.html

10/04 11:20, 5年前 , 1F

10/04 22:51, 5年前 , 2F
Core os真猛
10/04 22:51, 2F

10/05 07:09, 5年前 , 3F
https://tinyurl.com/y3zz6aku lenovo可能會先上W10X
10/05 07:09, 3F

10/05 17:50, 5年前 , 4F
對這第三方store 的認定感到有趣,因為現在就連office 都
10/05 17:50, 4F

10/05 17:50, 5年前 , 5F
是要跳過市集安裝的,市集開太多例外之後就會偏離初衷了
10/05 17:50, 5F

10/05 17:52, 5年前 , 6F
另一個例子是遊戲,沒辦法還是要向消費者(市場)妥協
10/05 17:52, 6F

10/05 17:53, 5年前 , 7F
所以市集會不會最後名存實亡,還有UWP,嗯嗯
10/05 17:53, 7F

10/05 21:04, 5年前 , 8F
聽起來有點像可以動態切換win10s跟win10pro的win10arm,不過
10/05 21:04, 8F

10/05 21:04, 5年前 , 9F
只要模擬層沒有什麼大進步沾到非原生arm的就是吃屎啊。以效
10/05 21:04, 9F

10/05 21:04, 5年前 , 10F
能來說這跟一年半前的狀態有什麼很大差別嗎?
10/05 21:04, 10F

10/05 21:36, 5年前 , 11F
W10X是用在neo 理論上沒模擬問題 雖然sandbox還是會有損耗
10/05 21:36, 11F

10/05 21:37, 5年前 , 12F
ARM的SPX用的OS 目前一切未知
10/05 21:37, 12F

10/06 06:46, 5年前 , 13F
目前的說法 lenovo X1可能不是lakefield
10/06 06:46, 13F

10/06 06:47, 5年前 , 14F
另外lakefield初期跑分很慘 MS酸intel會延後應該是跑不了
10/06 06:47, 14F

10/06 06:48, 5年前 , 15F
相關等明年Architecture Day 2會比較清楚
10/06 06:48, 15F

10/06 06:49, 5年前 , 16F
而且lakefield設計上可以塞modem 但intel的嘛.....
10/06 06:49, 16F

10/06 06:56, 5年前 , 17F
W10X不是在x86下跑的嗎? 還是我有什麼誤解?
10/06 06:56, 17F

10/06 07:02, 5年前 , 18F
對 是加強版W10S 跟W10ARM無關 只是運作模式有點像
10/06 07:02, 18F
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