Re: [光纖] 中華跑youtube很多720~1080P的都不會動

看板Broad_Band (寬頻網路)作者時間12年前 (2013/09/12 22:35), 編輯推噓26(26040)
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※ 引述《freshbox7 (小七)》之銘言: : 如題,中華光世代60M,小烏龜 > N13Ub1(ddwrt) > PC : 不是不會動就是超慢,有時連480P都掛彩 : 例如這個: : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y6smkh6c-0
: 我跑這部影片,480P都勉強快一點而已,720不用說會被追上,1080更直接不會動 : 試過網路上一些水管加速方法,通通無效.. : http://goo.gl/NDEk3 : http://goo.gl/r41EY : 暫存也清了,ccleaner也用了,proxy設過了,走固IP(運氣),都沒效果 : IE10和GC都同樣情形,開始懷疑是不是中華問題... : 請問有人遇過我這樣情形嗎? 真相就是HiNet到美國的Google 機房抓Youtube的資料,套用張善政說過的一句話: "這樣子會快起來才怪" HiNet Traceroute traceroute.hinet.net Translating "www.youtube.com.tw"...domain server (168.95.192.1) [OK] Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to youtube-ui.l.google.com (74.125.31.93) 1 TPDB-3516.hinet.net (210.65.161.22) 28 msec 0 msec 4 msec 2 TPDT-3012.hinet.net (220.128.2.146) 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec 3 * * * 4 r4001-s2.tp.hinet.net (220.128.7.205) 0 msec 4 msec r4001-s2.tp.hinet.net (220.128.7.217) 0 msec 5 r11-pa.us.hinet.net (211.72.108.197) 132 msec 128 msec 132 msec <---出國了 6 TenGigE0-0-4-0.GW5.SCL2.ALTER.NET (152.179.112.69) 132 msec 136 msec 132 msec 7 0.xe-11-0-0.XL4.PAO1.ALTER.NET (152.63.51.181) 132 msec 0.xe-10-0-0.XL3.PAO1.ALTER.NET (152.63.51.137) 128 msec 128 msec 8 0.xe-7-2-0.XL3.SJC7.ALTER.NET (152.63.52.82) 128 msec 140 msec 0.xe-7-0-1.XL4.SJC7.ALTER.NET (152.63.0.218) 132 msec 9 POS5-0-0.GW4.SJC7.ALTER.NET (152.63.49.173) 136 msec 136 msec POS7-0-0.GW4.SJC7.ALTER.NET (152.63.48.245) 136 msec 10 google-gw.customer.alter.net (152.179.48.14) 136 msec 140 msec 140 msec 11 209.85.249.3 136 msec 209.85.249.5 136 msec 209.85.249.3 136 msec 12 209.85.250.64 132 msec 209.85.250.60 132 msec 209.85.250.64 132 msec 13 72.14.232.63 144 msec 148 msec 148 msec 14 72.14.238.131 152 msec 72.14.239.247 148 msec 72.14.238.131 148 msec 15 72.14.233.49 132 msec 72.14.233.47 164 msec 72.14.233.49 148 msec 16 209.85.243.21 136 msec 132 msec 209.85.250.101 128 msec 17 * * * 18 youtube-ui.l.google.com (74.125.31.93) 128 msec 132 msec 136 msec 其他ISP直接到龍潭Google機房抓Youtube資料 從我的電腦tracert 到Youtube的路徑 tracert www.youtube.com.tw Tracing route to youtube-ui.l.google.com [74.125.31.190] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms [192.168.0.1] 2 7 ms 7 ms 14 ms 10.252.0.1 3 13 ms 11 ms 14 ms 211-76-122-1.static.kbronet.com.tw [211.76.122.1] 4 13 ms 12 ms 10 ms 211-76-122-254.static.kbronet.com.tw [211.76.122.254] 5 12 ms 11 ms 12 ms 219-80-241-85.static.tfn.net.tw [219.80.241.85] 6 11 ms 11 ms 15 ms 60-199-3-186.static.tfn.net.tw [60.199.3.186] 7 14 ms 16 ms 12 ms 60-199-16-98.static.tfn.net.tw [60.199.16.98] 8 12 ms 11 ms 13 ms 72.14.212.145 9 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms 209.85.243.26 10 16 ms 17 ms 15 ms 209.85.250.101 11 * * * Request timed out. 12 13 ms 13 ms 20 ms tb-in-f190.1e100.net [74.125.31.190] Trace complete. 亞太線上 http://www.ebix.net.tw/cgi-bin/traceroute.pl TraceRoute to www.youtube.com.tw 1 router (203.79.224.254) 0.629 ms 0.429 ms 0.386 ms 2 192.168.150.2 (192.168.150.2) 1.094 ms 3.344 ms 0.809 ms 3 203.79.255.66 (203.79.255.66) 22.669 ms 0.400 ms 0.372 ms 4 211.76.96.61 (211.76.96.61) 0.435 ms 0.436 ms 0.430 ms 5 72.14.214.207 (72.14.214.207) 0.666 ms 0.666 ms 0.648 ms 6 209.85.243.26 (209.85.243.26) 5.945 ms 0.819 ms 209.85.243.30 (209.85.243.30) 3.750 ms 7 209.85.250.103 (209.85.250.103) 1.800 ms 209.85.243.23 (209.85.243.23) 5.207 ms 209.85.250.103 (209.85.250.103) 1.760 ms 8 * * * 9 tf-in-f93.1e100.net (173.194.72.93) 5.229 ms 5.210 ms 1.817 ms SeedNet http://trace.seed.net.tw/cgi-bin/trace.pl traceroute to youtube-ui.l.google.com (173.194.72.190), 25 hops max, 44 byte packets 1 139.175.55.3 (139.175.55.3) 63.251 ms 0.400 ms 0.394 ms 2 R59-98 (139.175.59.98) 0.291 ms 0.280 ms 0.283 ms 3 R58-209 (139.175.58.209) 0.327 ms 0.324 ms 0.330 ms 4 h6-192-72-154 (192.72.154.6) 0.448 ms 0.442 ms 0.430 ms 5 72.14.194.246 (72.14.194.246) 0.515 ms 72.14.215.117 (72.14.215.117) 0.523 ms 72.14.194.246 (72.14.194.246) 22.089 ms 6 209.85.243.30 (209.85.243.30) 59.545 ms 27.346 ms 26.376 ms 7 209.85.243.21 (209.85.243.21) 30.933 ms 209.85.250.101 (209.85.250.101) 25.548 ms 209.85.243.23 (209.85.243.23) 26.003 ms 8 * * * 9 tf-in-f190.1e100.net (173.194.72.190) 29.210 ms 29.042 ms 29.259 ms -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 118.233.1.25

09/12 22:49, , 1F
seednet跑去香港?
09/12 22:49, 1F

09/12 23:29, , 2F
我們全家人也都一直跟我抱怨為何裝了100M
09/12 23:29, 2F

09/12 23:34, , 3F
YouTube 還是會卡 一直要我想辦法解決 試過網路上不少
09/12 23:34, 3F

09/12 23:36, , 4F
方法還是沒有顯著改善 還威脅我不能順的話要降成20M...
09/12 23:36, 4F

09/12 23:38, , 5F
我跟老媽有解釋是種花繞路的問題 但她還是叫我想辦法QQ
09/12 23:38, 5F

09/12 23:41, , 6F
所以說目前有解嗎?目前試過固ip 連中研院(好像改掉了?)
09/12 23:41, 6F

09/12 23:42, , 7F
拒連種花快取、連seednet DNS 好像都沒啥用
09/12 23:42, 7F

09/12 23:43, , 8F
樓上,到GOOGLE版搜尋"teredo"我有PO一篇開啟IP6的文
09/12 23:43, 8F

09/12 23:43, , 9F
就ipv6,申請完了就解了,前題是不管os或手機,要支援ipv6
09/12 23:43, 9F

09/12 23:47, , 10F
感謝摟上大大~!我先研究一下XD
09/12 23:47, 10F

09/12 23:47, , 11F
IPv6與IPv4的連線速度就好像五楊高架與中山高速中壢段
09/12 23:47, 11F

09/12 23:48, , 12F
前者車流量少可以開到110km,後者車多壅塞
09/12 23:48, 12F

09/13 00:07, , 13F
爸媽都是用iOS在看YouTube,所以我應該要換臺支援ipv6
09/13 00:07, 13F

09/13 00:08, , 14F
的AP對嗎? 還是說小烏龜有支援ipv6去改參數就好?
09/13 00:08, 14F

09/13 00:09, , 15F
還有teredo、Tunnel Broker、Isatap這幾個東西我搞不
09/13 00:09, 15F

09/13 00:09, , 16F
太懂是協定還是程式@@,總之只能在windows用吧?
09/13 00:09, 16F

09/13 00:09, , 17F
另外我也不太懂為啥從ipv4改成ipv6訂址,速度就會變快
09/13 00:09, 17F

09/13 00:10, , 18F
就算用ipv6連不是一樣要先連到USA 0.0a?
09/13 00:10, 18F

09/13 00:10, , 19F
是因為用的人少,比較不塞頻寬流量嗎?
09/13 00:10, 19F

09/13 00:11, , 20F
抱歉唷~不是相關科系的,問題有點多...orz
09/13 00:11, 20F

09/13 00:15, , 21F
如果是ios要用就必須從源端到ios都要支援ip6,
09/13 00:15, 21F

09/13 00:16, , 22F
1.先向中華電信申請IPv6。2.Router要支援IPv6。3.IOS要支
09/13 00:16, 22F

09/13 00:17, , 23F
援IPv6。
09/13 00:17, 23F

09/13 00:21, , 24F
不想申請,裝軟體就可以跑,就tunnel broker,只能win7以上
09/13 00:21, 24F

09/13 00:21, , 25F
目前windows走IP6通道的方式都是利用UDP協定。
09/13 00:21, 25F

09/13 00:22, , 26F
不過效率不是很好,但也不會lag就是了,另一種就是申請
09/13 00:22, 26F

09/13 00:23, , 27F
有三種方式可以開啟,用GOGO6最簡單,但容易連不上server
09/13 00:23, 27F

09/13 00:23, , 28F
目前能申請的是dual stack,其他種困難度又高了點,hinet
09/13 00:23, 28F

09/13 00:24, , 29F
我是用teredo,設定完後目前沒出問題。
09/13 00:24, 29F

09/13 00:26, , 30F
我也不是相關科系的,都是GOOGLE來的,^^
09/13 00:26, 30F

09/13 00:26, , 31F
似乎不想推,那就先別說了,然後router要支援,但不只是ipv6
09/13 00:26, 31F

09/13 00:27, , 32F
也要能透過pppoe拿到ipv6,有些廠家沒辦法用pppoe拿到
09/13 00:27, 32F

09/13 00:28, , 33F
用了Tunnel Broker之後youtube從來不需要讀取
09/13 00:28, 33F

09/13 00:29, , 34F
VDSL的話,不硬撥,自備ipv6 router,p874就可以了,要硬撥
09/13 00:29, 34F

09/13 00:30, , 35F
teredo是windows內建的!不用安裝任何東西,只要設定一下
09/13 00:30, 35F

09/13 00:31, , 36F
P880和P883都可,但P883是雙線,這就不多說,設定老實說第一
09/13 00:31, 36F

09/13 00:32, , 37F
次設還真的摸不著頭緒,後來才了解,撥不上請斷電等5分再試
09/13 00:32, 37F

09/13 00:34, , 38F

09/13 00:36, , 39F
也是好像第三種才有辦法申請,iPhone剛爬文應該是都有
09/13 00:36, 39F

09/13 00:38, , 40F
支援ipv6 那要怎麼看router有沒有支援pppoe ipv6呢@@?
09/13 00:38, 40F

09/13 00:38, , 41F
是的,其它幾種都被申請完了,且之前要公司才能申請,個人不
09/13 00:38, 41F

09/13 00:40, , 42F
行,不用申請的就teredo連到指定server,另一種是hinet的
09/13 00:40, 42F

09/13 00:41, , 43F
Tunnel Broker,裝軟體就會幫你連到hinet的server幫轉
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09/13 00:42, , 44F
先來開teredo體驗一下有多快好了XD 感謝風大的教學!
09/13 00:42, 44F

09/13 00:43, , 45F
再偷問一個~我本身是用mac雙系統 那我在用OSX的時候
09/13 00:43, 45F

09/13 00:45, , 46F
有類似teredo Tunnel Broker 的東西可以裝嗎....?
09/13 00:45, 46F

09/13 00:47, , 47F
請問超級大(?)本身有申請ipv6嗎?還是用 Tunnel Broker?
09/13 00:47, 47F

09/13 00:59, , 48F
ipv6我申請不只一次了,tunnel broker,只支援windows喔
09/13 00:59, 48F

09/13 01:01, , 49F
裝來玩玩而已,自己覺得還是用原生的好, ipv4封裝ipv6的
09/13 01:01, 49F

09/13 01:03, , 50F
效率不好,1是cpu要封裝,2是封包可能會多拆成幾個收送
09/13 01:03, 50F

09/13 01:04, , 51F
過度期的玩法,比較好的是接上去就拿到ipv6,但中華不給申
09/13 01:04, 51F

09/13 01:07, , 52F
請,且要固定制用戶才有,不過用過還真的像dhcp一樣
09/13 01:07, 52F

09/13 01:19, , 53F
感謝板上前輩的大力協助m(_"_)m,我明天就去申請看看!!
09/13 01:19, 53F

09/13 02:07, , 54F
臨櫃申請ipv6 dual stack
09/13 02:07, 54F

09/13 06:45, , 55F
ipv6真的有差 1080p也是讀很快
09/13 06:45, 55F

09/13 11:18, , 56F
IPv6的路由應該是有和Google直接互連的,如果家中是MAC雙
09/13 11:18, 56F

09/13 11:19, , 57F
系統,Mac OS X v10.6.7或更高版本,本身已經有支援IPv6
09/13 11:19, 57F

09/13 11:22, , 58F
可以在臨櫃申請Dual Stack Service服務、機房也通知設定
09/13 11:22, 58F

09/13 11:22, , 59F
成功後,在MAC上手動設定電腦使用IPv6。從Appl選單→系統
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09/13 11:23, , 60F
偏好設定→網路→乙太網路(或AirPort)→進階→TCP/IP
09/13 11:23, 60F

09/13 11:23, , 61F
→設定IPv6彈出視窗→選取「自動」
09/13 11:23, 61F

09/13 13:40, , 62F
剛查了ANDROID手機好像不支援ipv6 (?) 有人測試過嗎?
09/13 13:40, 62F

09/13 14:24, , 63F
Android應該可以利用app連線取得IPv6位址
09/13 14:24, 63F

09/13 19:53, , 64F
直接去中華電信櫃台說要申請ipv6 dual stack 單子填一填就好
09/13 19:53, 64F

09/14 12:20, , 65F
我用nexus7測 沒問題
09/14 12:20, 65F

09/16 13:10, , 66F
IPV6沒用了~一樣慢
09/16 13:10, 66F
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