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[情報] EPYC 4004 MSRP同Ryzen 7000

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AMD Introduces EPYC 4004 Series Socket AM5 Server Processors for SMB and Dedicated Webhosting Markets https://www.techpowerup.com/322650 AMD today introduced the EPYC 4004 line of server processors in the Socket AM5 package. These chips come with up to 16 "Zen 4" CPU cores, a 2-channel DDR5 memory interface, and a 28-lane PCIe Gen 5 I/O, and are meant to power small-business servers, as well as cater to the dedicated web-server hosting business that generally attracts client-segment processors. This is the exact segment of market that Intel addresses with its Xeon E-2400 series processors in the LGA1700 package. The EPYC 4004 series offers a superior support and warranty regime compared to client-segment processors, besides ECC memory support, and AMD Secure Processor, and all of the security features you get with Ryzen PRO 7000 series processors for commercial desktops. 重點： 1. AM5腳位 2. 最高16核 3. 雙通道DDR5 支援ECC 4. 28-lane PCIe Gen 5 5. 對標Intel Xeon E-2400 AMD's offer over the Xeon E-2400 series in its CPU core count of up to 16, which lets you fully utilize the 16-core limit of the Windows 2022 Server base license. The EPYC 4004 series is functionally the same processor as the Ryzen 7000 "Raphael" except for its ECC memory support. This chip features up to two 5nm "Zen 4" CCDs with up to 8 cores, each; and an I/O die that puts out two DDR5 memory channels, and 28 PCIe Gen 5 lanes. Besides today's prcessor launch, several server motherboard vendors are announcing Socket AM5 server boards that are rackmount-friendly, and with server-relevant features. https://iili.io/Ji192l2.jpg
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The AMD EPYC 4004 series consists of eight individual processor models based on CPU core counts and TDP. The lineup begins with the 16-core/ 32-thread EPYC 4564PX (校：應為4564P), with 4.50 GHz base frequency, up to 5.70 GHz boost, and a 170 W TDP for superior boost frequency residence. This chip is priced at $699, which isn't all that pricier than a Ryzen 7950X client processor. The EPYC 4584P (校：應為4584PX) is launching at the same $699 price, with the same 16-core/32-thread muscle, but lower 4.20 GHz base frequency, and a significantly lower 120 W TDP. Next up, is the EPYC 4464P, a 12-core/24-thread chip with 3.70 GHz base frequency, 5.40 GHz maximum boost, and a 65 W TDP. AMD is pricing this chip at $429. The 4484PX is a faster 12-core chip, with 4.40 GHz base frequency, 5.60 GHz maximum boost, but with a 120 W TDP, and a $599 price. 這段其實沒講到重點，簡單來說 4564P對應7950X，正常的L3和較高的base clock和TDP 4584PX對應7950X3D，加大的L3，一般的base clock和TDP 4464P對應7900，正常的L3和較低的base/boost clock和TDP 4484PX對應7900X3D，加大的L3，一般的base clock和TDP MSRP則和對應的一模一樣 可以看我文章最後整理的表格 https://iili.io/Ji0yyoG.jpg
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The 8-core/16-thread lineup consists of the EPYC 4364P and the 4344P. The former ticks at 4.50 GHz base and 5.40 GHz maximum boost, with a 105 W TDP and a $399 price; while the latter does 3.80 GHz base, 5.30 GHz maximum boost, with a 65 W TDP, and a $329 price. The EPYC 4244P is a 6-core/12-thread chip running at 3.80 GHz base, 5.10 GHz boost, 65 W TDP, and a $229 price. At the tail end is the EPYC 4124P, a 4-core/8-thread chip that ticks at the same 3.80/5.10 GHz speeds as the 4244P, with the same 65 W TDP, but at a $149 price. 簡單來說4364P對應7700X，4344P對應7700，4244P對應7600 以及多一個4核的4124P，MSRP $149 https://iili.io/Ji0yt9t.jpg
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The company also presented several performance numbers for its EPYC 4004 series, where the series shows significant performance advantage over the Xeon E-2400 series in several server performance benchmarks. The real ace here is AMD's core count, which scales all the way between 4 and 16, letting you maximize your Windows 2022 Server base license, or the 16-core SQL Server license. PPT秀了幾張效能比較，我認為重點在於 Xeon E-2488 8c/16t MSRP 609 EPYC 4364P 8c/16t MSRP 399 EPYC 4564P 16c/32t MSRP 699 至於效能比較看看就好，不如實際測試 -- 先上我整理的表格 https://iili.io/Ji1nWdu.png
可以看到EPYC 4004基本上就是Ryzen 7000產品線直接搬過去 4XX4的第二個數字與核心數相關 5對應16c、4對應12c、3對應8c、2對應6c、1對應4c 第三個數字大概和定位相關 大致可以看出8對應X3D、6對應X、4對應non-X、2應該代表低階 (不過照這樣來看4464P應該要叫4444P才對，可能是太難聽了跳過？) 這次EPYC4004系列大概就是來補足低階伺服器的市場 瞄準PCIe通道數以及RAM容量較不要求的用途 而且價格也非常好看 反觀Intel那邊給的... 另外我覺得4124P這顆4核的CPU也蠻值得關注的 單核性能應該不差 如果價格開得夠低 說不定是一顆可以當入門遊戲機的CPU -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 111.71.216.39 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/PC_Shopping/M.1716349555.A.7B0.html
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05/22 11:49, 5月前 , 1F
有點類似家庭也能用的amd 版xeno
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05/22 11:50, 5月前 , 2F
xeon
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05/22 11:57, 5月前 , 3F
換皮
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05/22 12:07, 5月前 , 4F
看起來跟ryzen似乎沒兩樣，而且ryzen全系
05/22 12:07, 4F
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05/22 12:07, 5月前 , 5F
列支援ecc不是嗎
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05/22 12:12, 5月前 , 6F
對，我也很疑惑，帳面上看起來除了名字之
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05/22 12:12, 5月前 , 7F
外似乎沒什麼差別
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05/22 12:20, 5月前 , 8F
記憶體支援性跟PCIe通道數都沒提升
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05/22 12:20, 5月前 , 9F
不知所謂
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05/22 12:21, 5月前 , 10F
SMP
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05/22 12:31, 5月前 , 11F
但Xeon DT也沒SMP了 等詳細規格才知
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05/22 13:08, 5月前 , 12F
看不懂這個伺服器版在幹嘛
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05/22 13:08, 5月前 , 13F
有需要的話為何不直接組消費級版的
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05/22 13:09, 5月前 , 14F
會不會零售還很難說
05/22 13:09, 14F
※ 編輯: mrme945 (111.71.216.39 臺灣), 05/22/2024 13:10:29
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05/22 13:29, 5月前 , 15F
這種性能要用在哪種伺服器？
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05/22 13:30, 5月前 , 16F
家庭伺服器嗎(x
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05/22 13:34, 5月前 , 17F
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05/22 13:34, 5月前 , 18F
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05/22 13:35, 5月前 , 19F
官方提到的用途
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05/22 14:02, 5月前 , 20F
是不是差在沒有內顯？聯想到e3-1230v2
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05/22 14:03, 5月前 , 21F
最大用途:推出小台伺服器的時候CPU掛的是EPYC
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05/22 14:07, 5月前 , 22F
有內顯
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05/22 14:10, 5月前 , 23F
一般user不會去買這種東西，同上面s網友
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05/22 14:11, 5月前 , 24F
所言，有需要的話直接拿消費版就好
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05/22 14:15, 5月前 , 25F
我覺得可能都是板廠或伺服器廠商直接出整
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05/22 14:15, 5月前 , 26F
套方案，大概不會有零售CPU了？我自己是
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05/22 14:15, 5月前 , 27F
比較注意那顆4核的，桌面版沒推，結果伺
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05/22 14:15, 5月前 , 28F
服器這邊才推
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05/22 14:16, 5月前 , 29F
如果比較便宜對一般人就有意義了
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05/22 14:28, 5月前 , 30F
竟然沒加價賣
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05/22 14:31, 5月前 , 31F
其實對一般人本來就不太有意義　完全就是
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05/22 14:32, 5月前 , 32F
跟intel對著幹用的.之前這個市場AMD沒產品
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05/22 14:32, 5月前 , 33F
不會比較便宜，伺服器MB比消費型貴一大截
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05/22 14:36, 5月前 , 34F
不過像Asrock Rack、Supermicro都有出伺
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05/22 14:36, 5月前 , 35F
服器版本的AM5主板，這樣幾乎就完全重疊
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05/22 14:36, 5月前 , 36F
了
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05/22 14:37, 5月前 , 37F
而是這些Server廠商終於有個能正式歸類在
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05/22 14:38, 5月前 , 38F
SMB segment的AMD產品,真正有差的地方可能
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05/22 14:38, 5月前 , 39F
在保固跟售後支援政策這些
05/22 14:38, 39F
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05/22 14:47, 5月前 , 40F
以前有需要就直接用Ryzen而已吧，現在改
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05/22 14:47, 5月前 , 41F
名是為了看起來"比較伺服器"些？
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05/22 14:54, 5月前 , 42F
還有 貼紙可以貼EPYC 很重要
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05/22 16:45, 5月前 , 43F
ryzen全系列支援ecc所以有廠商直接拿來當
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05/22 16:45, 5月前 , 44F
伺服器用不意外
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05/22 16:52, 5月前 , 45F
接下來就是伺服器板的售價了
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05/22 17:43, 5月前 , 46F
這個八成要用來抄i皇E3系列的底的
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05/22 17:45, 5月前 , 47F
i皇再不加油點 每個領域都要被按摩店啃了
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05/22 18:52, 5月前 , 48F
感覺這玩意就是補齊DT缺少的RDIMM支援
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05/22 18:52, 5月前 , 49F
而已
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05/22 20:32, 5月前 , 50F
應該只支援UDIMM 不支援RDIMM
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05/23 01:20, 5月前 , 51F
沒意外還是UDIMM ECC吧
05/23 01:20, 51F
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05/24 07:09, 5月前 , 52F
想起以前可以速龍變皓龍
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